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Ordinary Moments: The Power of Difficult Conversations with Kathy Cameron


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If you struggle with letting go, giving up control, and trusting the process, then this episode is for you. 

Today’s episode is the third of my six-part series, where I’m interviewing and having conversations with owners of childcare centers across the nation, on how they are building their schools of excellence. And they’re sharing their real and raw stories with all of you. 

In this episode, I sit down with Kathy Cameron, who has been part of the Schools of Excellence community since July of 2020.

She shares her journey of letting go, she talks about her struggle of wanting to control the outcomes and the processes that she’s gone through to take a step back.

Kathy is honest and vulnerable about her real retention numbers, and how bad it got.

Tune in to learn more about the highs and lows of running a school of excellence, including cultivating the culture of having difficult conversations. 

In a nutshell, we speak about:

  • How Kathy’s definition of excellence has changed since she joined the Schools of Excellence community.
  • Some of the systems that Kathy has put in place to sustain excellence.
  • The gratitude matrix – a system and process that Kathy has really embraced in her institution.
  • The messiness around what gratitude looks like in Kathy’s organization and how that’s really shifted her retention.
  • How Kathy gets over the challenge of embracing the routine of connecting with her staff.
  • Habits and trigger points that have helped Kathy stay consistent.
  • Kathy’s first experience with delegating and how it went.
  • How Kathy embedded the culture and courage of having difficult conversations with her staff.
  • How delegating has made Kathy’s life better and richer.

… and so much more


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More about the show:

If you are an Early Childhood director or owner, prepare to transform your school and life with the Schools of Excellence podcast. Tune in each week to learn from Chanie Wilschanski, the founder and host of the Schools of Excellence Podcast and a mom of 4 little kids. Each episode will be packed with tools and strategies – equipping you to build schools with higher staff retention, teacher motivation, parent partnership, collaborative culture, and beautiful quality of life.

Every week, Chanie shares the truth about the journey to excellence, the strategies that are working TODAY, and the mindset about the critical decisions and choices that you make every day which impact yourself, your teachers, parents, family, and children who you serve every day.

In addition to weekly solo episodes, she’ll also be inviting industry leaders and the changing makers of the landscape of education to give listeners the inside knowledge of what it takes to sustain excellence.

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